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social regulation in the workplace (messages 1-4)  
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anarcho-commie-chris  12:55am Apr 10, 2002 EST 1 of 4
this has nothing to do with sept. 11th but the religion bit made me think of it. so ive been to jobs before that generally dictate a good majority of your lives and its pretty much accepted and i think thats a shame. for example guys arent allowed to wear earrings in most jobs (how this is not sexual discrimination is beyond me) or wear colorful shoes (like my red chuck taylors goddamn it) or wear clothes that are "unprofessional" ( i always thought professionalism was a behavior not a dress style) even further some companies that offer health benefits will not hire smokers, motorcyclists or anyone else that does something that is "dangerous" i think this is a damn shame. its required by our current economic state that most of us be employed by someone and if we allow them to dictate things like our appearance or hobbies outside of work then we are allowing ourslves to live in a corporate dictatorship where our bodys and lives are tools for cost effectiveness. that really sucks says i.

antsmarching18  09:13pm Apr 10, 2002 EST 2 of 4
i agree totally. social expectations and regulations make me sick. this summer, i worked in a day care and they made a rule all of a sudden that none of the workers could have their tongues pierced. i think four of the girls did, and they had to either take it out or quit. now, if this has any connection at all to playing games with toddlers or changing diapers, i would appreciate it if someone would tell me because i have no idea whatsoever. people always complain about the expected social regulations placed on us by "society," but they're only egged along by these companies who discriminate based on expression, clothing, and hobbies. i have a friend who has dread locks and he can't find a decent job (he's only 17, so it's hard. but no restaurants or similar places will hire him because of his hair, it's ridiculous). so yeah, i agree. and what's wrong with colorful shoes? that's the stupidest thing i've ever heard, did they have an explanation or justification behind that??
*Allison*

mxpxnofxchic  10:09pm Apr 10, 2002 EST 3 of 4
I really hate the phrase "unprofessional clothing"...the only senses in which I can understand this is where the clothing is entirely too revealing or it has holes all over it. Otherwise...baggy clothes, plaid pants, bright red shoes...none of these really have any effect on how well a worker [or student for that matter] performs. Oh and also...nail polish for god's sake...black nail polsh or any nail polish on guys is prohibited at the place where my friend works. I dont understnad how there can be so many sexist double standards in the standards of dress against guys.

 -Amanda


megh  12:51am Apr 16, 2002 EST 4 of 4
wow I completely agree on this! I'm so glad so many people are thinking about this very topic. this is the one thing i HATE most about certain jobs, and why i believe certain jobs are evil or just wrong. The ones that focus more on whether you wear a suit to the interview than how good you are at doing the things the work will involve DOING. And discriminating against males with earrings--that is just sexist, discrimination in any way. the fact that "society" believes it doesn't make it any less wrong to discriminate in the workplace. society is just as wrong on this, just as they've been about, oh, let's see, racial equality, homosexuality (oh, wait, some people still believe it), people showing their legs (Victorian times), the king, corsets, whether a woman should "obey" her husband, etc. so why should society just happen to be right about EVERYTHING right NOW? Because we convieniently happen to be living in Right Now right now? there was store in one of the local shopping centers in my town that used to make their employees dress up, takeout the earring, not grow a beard or have long hair, etc. they got their employees mostly from teens, who wanted quick money. kids stopped shopping when more people heard about their little rules and they continued to have trouble getting people to apply to the job so they had to drop their dress code. businesses shouldn't have to come so close to going broke to do the right thing.

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