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FOREIGNERS: SHOULD WE LET THEM IN OR OUT? (messages 1-12)  
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futurepres2  10:33pm Apr 3, 2002 EST 1 of 12
Dear board,

For decades and decades foreigners from Iraq to Japan have been allowed to freely travel back and forth in America with no trouble or hindering from the US governtment. How can we solve this problem?? Should we just put electric fences on all our boarders, if you touch you die, should we continue to open our doors to whomever wants to come to America? What should we do. I want you opinion.

See ya,

Josh


Gray  10:28am Apr 4, 2002 EST 2 of 12
What have Japanese and Iraqi foreigners done to the US?

rainydaygirl5  07:24pm Apr 4, 2002 EST 3 of 12
Nothing...the people I have the most problems with are the non-English speaking Mexicans who come in here and take our jobs and drive our cars and live off of our money. You know, the illegal ones...However I don't believe we should let EVERYONE in..even though it does happen. All the time. The American-born citizens, though, are the ones I have no problem with because they are educated and appreciate things here in the US. The Japanese and Iraqi foriegners have done absolutely nothing to us...could you maybe elaborate on that futurepres?

Gray  09:05pm Apr 4, 2002 EST 4 of 12
Whoa rainydaygirl, I'm a little taken aback by your comments. Emm, I dunno if you should be angry with Mexican people or with those who hire them over American citizens. People/businesses/corporations want to make as much profit as they can and the cheaper or more efficient the labor the more the profit someone is making. And foreigners don't really have to leave their countries to err "take our jobs" think of all the American companies who manufacture overseas. I wonder why that is? Everyone is just trying to survive. You probably have more in common with these non-English speaking Mexicans than you realize, and just because they don't speak English does not mean they are not educated.

I personally think the whole concept of boarders and territories and "citizenship" is ridiculous. Tomorrow someone could say that Mexico and the US are one big country and you wouldn't really have an argument. Don't forget that we drew the lines on maps. And supposedly at one point there was only one huge land mass on the globe and it broke up over time.


Locke  10:27am Apr 5, 2002 EST 5 of 12
I have no problems with letting people in here either... Gray put it best, "Don't forget that we drew the lines on maps."

We set up countries and boundaries, why should we continue to use that 17th century idea to keep people out? As long as those people are willing to work and to contribute to society then it's all good. I think it's safe to say that 98%+ of immigrants here come here with good intent. Not the intent to blow this country up.

I figure as long as we have a good immigration dept. (lol, INS screwed that one up) then we're all good.
...punch and pie


rainydaygirl5  04:30pm Apr 5, 2002 EST 6 of 12
Gray,
I am well aware that just because they don't speak English doesn't mean that they aren't educated. I just feel that if they wanna live in our country they need to speak our language. I never took Spanish and I'm waiting for the day it becomes a secondary language and our kids will be required to learn it. All the time they come in the store I work at, with food stamps and WIC vouchers and the only English they understand are "yes," "no," the total price they are going to have to pay, and stuff like that. Or maybe they just act like that's all they know...but it angers me because they come in here and get everything handed to them b/c they are "minorities" while the rest of us work our asses off to get by. You never saw the African Americans get any special treatment when they were shipped here from Africa..no, instead they were made slaves. I see it more and more all the time, probably of where I live..although its happening in other parts of the country as well. MAYBE when racial and ethnic equality is *finally* a reality, then I won't have anything to bitch about.

futurepres2  08:04pm Apr 5, 2002 EST 7 of 12
Dear Gray,

I just used a nationality for example because both are potential enemies.

See ya,

Josh


meggem15  03:51pm Apr 7, 2002 EST 8 of 12
I agree that if people come to the US they need to learn the language. If we go to another country I believe that we should know their language. I believe that people should work hard to learn, and not have things handed to them.

tomcow600  10:38am Apr 8, 2002 EST 9 of 12
I think we should still welcome foreigners, because NOT ALL THE FOREIGNERS ARE BAD. And US is a very new nation, there are certain things that only US can do. And I think one of them is to accept new people from all different backgrounds.

tomcow600  10:42am Apr 8, 2002 EST 10 of 12
meggem15, no offense, but American people are very famous for not speaking a language other than their own. I guess it's hard to learn a language when everybody in the world speaks English, but learning another language often enlarges one's view. ENglish spreading all over the world can be a good thing- so we can all communicate, but can be a bad thing- now there is no "accurate" English!

meggem15  02:30pm Apr 8, 2002 EST 11 of 12
I take no offense tomcow600. I believe that we need to learn other peoples' languages and not just talk English. I believe in the US we should talk English and expect others to too. However, when we go abroad we should talk their language. I agree with your view 100%.

bluegirly28  05:03pm Apr 8, 2002 EST 12 of 12
i think they should let foreigners in cuz like meggem15 said they arent all bad. i have lots of friends that came from like every where and they all know english so...whatever. i also agree meggem15 that if we go somewhere we should learn their language and foreigners should learn english.

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